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  Friday 1 October 2004 14:42:36  
From:
Oliverio Gentile   Oliverio Gentile
 
Subject:

alt.usage.englsih

 
To:
Resume' Conferenze   Resume' Conferenze
 
[English text follows]

Questa conferenza contiene i messaggi inviati al gruppo di discussione Internet alt.usage.english. Il traffico è piuttosto pesante e il pubblico abbastanza sofisticato, anche se composto di non specialisti.

In questi gruppi passano soltanto i caratteri ASCII a sette bit e quindi non ci sono lettere accentate, sottolineatura, corsivo, grassetto, ecc. Per evidenziare una parola si può inserire prima e dopo un carattere "_" o "*" come si trova spesso in questi messaggi. C'è da tenere presente che la maggior parte della gente che scrive qua usa dei programmi di lettura appositi che rendono il testo citato con un segno di ">" ad inizio di ogni riga (e per leggere questi in FirstClass può essere utile allargare la finestra). Le righe che iniziano con due ">" sono le citazioni delle citazioni.

Una parte del FAQ di questo gruppo di discussione è riportata sotto: contiene alcuni consigli su ciò che non va in questo gruppo. Il FAQ intero è allegato al messaggio in formato RTF zippato, e risulta molto interessante -- pieno di informazioni su modi di dire inglesi.

This conference contains messages sent to the Internet newsgroup
alt.usage.english.  Traffic is fairly heavy and the audience rather sophisticated, though made up of lay people.

These newsgroups support only seven-bit ASCII characters, which means no accented letters, underlining, italics, bold, etc.  Words are sometimes highlighted by placing a "_" or a "*" before and after them, as can be seen in the messages.  It should be borne in mind that most people who write here are using newsreader programs, which typically indicate quoted text with a ">" at the beginning of each line (and it may help to widen the window when you are reading them in FirstClass).  Lines beginning with two ">" are quotations of quoted text.

Part of the FAQ for this newsgroup is appended below.  It includes some advice about what not to write here.  The complete FAQ in zipped RTF is attached.  It makes interesting reading, with loads of information about English expressions.

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alt.usage.english is a newsgroup where we discuss the English
language (and also occasionally other languages).  We discuss
how particular words, phrases, and syntactic forms are used; how
they originated; and where in the English-speaking world they're
prevalent.  (All this is called "description".)  We also discuss
how we think they *should* be used ("prescription").

   alt.usage.english is for everyone, *not* only for linguists,
native speakers, or descriptivists.

Guidelines for posting
----------------------

   Things you may want to consider avoiding when posting here:

(1) re-opening topics (such as singular "they" and "hopefully") that
experience has shown lead to circular debate.  (One function of the
FAQ file is to point out topics that have already been discussed ad
nauseam.)

(2) questions that can be answered by simple reference to a
dictionary.

(3) generalities.  If you make a statement like:  "Here in the U.S.
we NEVER say 'different to'", "Retroflex 'r' is ONLY used in North
America", or "'Eh' ALWAYS rhymes with 'pay'", chances are that
someone will pounce on you with a counterexample.

(4) assertions that one variety of English is "true English".

(5) sloppy writing (as distinct from simple slips like typing
errors, or errors from someone whose native language is not
English).  Keep in mind that the regulars on alt.usage.english are
probably less willing than the general population to suffer sloppy
writers gladly; and that each article is written by one person, but
read perhaps by thousands, so the convenience of the readers really
ought to have priority over the convenience of the writer.  Again,
this is *not* to discourage non-native speakers from posting;
readers will be able to detect that you're writing in a foreign
language, and will make allowances for this.

(6) expressions of exasperation.  In the course of debate, you
may encounter positions based on premises radically different
from yours and perhaps surprisingly novel to you.  Saying things
like "Oh, please", "That's absurd", "Give me a break", or "Go
teach your grandmother to suck eggs, my man" is unlikely to win
your opponent over.

   You really *are* welcome to post here!  Don't let the impatient
tone of this FAQ frighten you off.



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